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Andrew Eveleth's avatar

“I think both Dems and Reps are essentially just internal signalling machines at this point and are dominated by those motives.”

If possible, this has only grown worse since you wrote this post.

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JernauMoratGurgeh's avatar

But what you fail to understand is that it’s a disagreement over fundamentals (reality, basic principles etc) with a significant proportion of the population. Maybe these are a significant minority, probably not in actuality as most people will follow the crowd, so maybe even larger. Framing it as a small fringe minority plus a much larger group of people that you just need to talk to in the right way is simply incorrect. Same with the memes, the now right use it as a spicy take on reality, the now left think you can meme anything and frequently end up in self parody territory. Also the frequent habit of “we’re not talking about that” (views that don’t stand up to debate) never persuaded anyone…

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