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But what you fail to understand is that it’s a disagreement over fundamentals (reality, basic principles etc) with a significant proportion of the population. Maybe these are a significant minority, probably not in actuality as most people will follow the crowd, so maybe even larger. Framing it as a small fringe minority plus a much larger group of people that you just need to talk to in the right way is simply incorrect. Same with the memes, the now right use it as a spicy take on reality, the now left think you can meme anything and frequently end up in self parody territory. Also the frequent habit of “we’re not talking about that” (views that don’t stand up to debate) never persuaded anyone…

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You’re so far wide of the mark it’s unfunny. 2 years ago I was left leaning and would never think to associate myself with the Republicans. Regarding vaccination, I adopted a wait and see approach since there hadn’t been a successful coronavirus vaccine before, the spike protein likely had endothelial/clotting function potential etc etc. To watch the vaccines then fail to prevent transmission, have a really poor side effect profile, lag natural immunity in efficacy and still have a lot of the political left try to institute mandates (they are still pushing for them), becomes a hard pass on the vaccines and a lot of the ideology of what used to be the political left. No amount of attempting to wrap this in nice language will bridge the gap and any thinking to the contrary is delusional. The cartoon is hilarious because it’s true ;)

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The article is not about vaccination but about tactics to appeal to those who disagree with you. As I said in the caption to the cartoon you're referring to, some people are too far gone to be persuaded.

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Looks like you lost on the "how to use persuasive tactics".

You made the common mistake of using an example that is so divisive that your original point got totally lost.

And BTW, there are Anti-Vaxers and then there are Anti-mRNA vaxers. Some overlap in the Venn Diagram, yes. But many anti-mRNA vaxers still get their regular shots, they just consider the mRNA vax dangerous.

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Are you not persuaded by how impressive the American spirit was on developing brand new, astounding health technologies - solving a problem that communist China unleashed on us through their awful incompetence?

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deletedJun 13, 2022·edited Jun 13, 2022
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I agree re. signalling. That's definitely what a great deal of political talk is about. This is more for those that want to push for a change in approaching comms. I think both Dems and Reps are essentially just internal signalling machines at this point and are dominated by those motives. If either one can manage to break out of that, they've got a much better chance of lasting cultural or policy change

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